Second Day, June 7, 2002, Volunteer Trail Crew


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Second day's hiking
Map of the second day's hiking. From "Boulder Camp" to Rosemarie Meadow.
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Largest tree of the trip.
Second day, largest tree of the trip.
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After breaking camp and leaving a large tree near camp for the North Crew to work on, we continued on. About a mile or so out of camp we made a new water bar on the trail where there was a small creek running down the middle of the trail. We then got to a down tree that fell in the middle of a meadow and crossed the trail. This was one of the two places where we had any type of argument between the crew members and it revolved around Steve thinking that it would be a poor idea if I cut my leg wide open by sawing in a very unsafe manner and I thinking that, since I hadn't actually cut my leg yet that there wasn't anything to worry about. (Maybe I should look at that scar on my knee that I put there in the 1950's with a crosscut saw!) After all we had "doc" with us.

Shortly after the meadow, the trail we were on (Forest Service trail 28E01) meets up with the Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail and ends. (This is normally called either the Pacific Crest Trail or PCT.) At this point the North Crew turned left and proceeded on north to Lake Thomas A. Edison (Edison Lake) while we kept on straight ahead. We were now on the PCT.


Dolly and tree Full view
Dolly and the largest tree.
Dolly and the largest tree.
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I asked Dolly to stand in front of this tree to give some idea of its size. Note that it is gracefully lying almost full length down the trail. It took some thinking to ensure that when we cut the tree, that we could then easily roll the pieces out of the way. Look carefully at Dolly's axe and you will note that it is still in its sheath. This is a safety item and it is always in its sheath unless it is in actual use.

A nice feature of this tree is its large and healthy set of roots that we got to remove. When the roots came out of the ground they left a large hole that we also got to fill in. The various thick rootlets had to be cut off before we could start to cut the tree into smaller pieces for removal from the trail.

This was an unusual tree for another reason. It was not an old dead one that had finally fallen down. When it fell down it was still a living, viable tree. This means that it was full of important tree things like pitch and sap.

  1. Pitch, being quite sticky, has to be constantly removed from our saw as it causes binding. This is what we used the diesel fuel for. Some say that we should use citrus based pitch removers, but none of us trusted them compared to good old diesel fuel. Although we didn't have any problems with bears, I worry that they might like the smell of a citrus based pitch cleaner, while they do not appear to like diesel fuel.
  2. Then there is the sap to work with. Normally the trees that fall down have been dead for some time and are reasonably dry. However here the tree was "fresh" and with its sap the wood was two to four times as heavy as wood from an old dry dead tree.

Saw, Wedge and Sledge Full view
Wedging and sawing the largest tree.
Wedging and sawing the largest tree. Note the large/long saw chips on the ground and coming out of the cut.
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Here we are about a quarter of the way through our first cut on the tree. Note in the background that major parts of the roots have been removed. Some of them are the size of some of the trees that we were cutting on the trail earlier on!

On top of the tree we have a wedge that is there to prevent the tree binding the saw as we cut further through the tree. One problem with using wedges is that we cannot pound them in too far as they then hit the saw! The only type of wedges that we use are these plastic "felling" wedges. The difference between these felling wedges and the common "splitting" wedges is that these are quite narrow. Being made out plastic they do not weigh as much a wrought iron splitting wedges and they do not damage the "stone" sledges that we use. (If we were using a chain saw, which we are not allowed in the primitive areas that we work in, and the saw's chain hits the wedge, the chain won't be damaged.)

Also visible is the rock that we were using as a sledge hammer.

Note that the bark has been removed from around where the saw is cutting. This was done to help keep the saw as sharp as possible. Some types of bark cause saws to become dull very quickly and so it is always removed.

A crosscut saw cuts by using its "cutting teeth" to score, and cut, both sides of the cut. Then the "raker teeth" scrape the wood out from the middle of the cut. The result of this is that when the saw is sharp and the tree is fresh (not from an old dried out tree), we get nice long "chips" coming out of the cut. As is shown here, the long chips are about two to three inches long!


About two-man crosscut saws

For those of you that are interested in some more information about two-man crosscut saws, I have extracted some information from the Forest Service's "The Crosscut Saw Manual". (I found it using Google and a search field of "crosscut saw manual", the double quotes are needed.)

On this hike our primary saw was a "perforated lace tooth" "felling type" that was quite sharp. (A felling saw is thinner and more flexible than a bucking type saw.)

There is always a sheath on crosscut saws when they are not in use. (I have never seen anything else than an old piece of fire hose used as a sheath.) Old fire hose has several advantages over anything else:

  1. Low cost. Available for FREE from most firemen when it is clear that it will only be used to protect crosscut saws.
  2. It is lined with rubber which is "kind" to the sharpened teeth and protects people working/transporting the saw.
  3. It is flexible. Some use plywood boxes for their saws. This is OK when the saw is being transported by vehicle, or is being sent out for sharpening. (Always try to have a professional like Dolly sharpen your saw.)
  4. Is light weight. The old canvas/rubber construction of fire hoses weights less than leather or plywood solutions.

Ron, Ed and Ray Full view
Cutting the largest tree.
Ron and Ray cutting the largest tree, with Ed in the background.
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To remove this tree, we needed two cuts. This is the first of the cuts being made. Note the ax placed into the cut. This is to reduce the chance that the tree will "roll" unexpectedly. It is in about an inch or so. As we are now further though the tree, we now have three of our four wedges in use and they are pounded in as far as we can get them.


Ray, Steve and Ron Full view
Working on the largest tree
Ray and Ron with the largest tree, Steve in the background.
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While we were here, we had a "through hiker" come along. He was solo hiking the Pacific Crest Trail and had gotten here from the southern end. We talked a bit and asked him about the trail ahead of us. He had just come over Seldon Pass and had forded Bear Creek. He said that the ford was "about crotch high". This was bad news for us as we estimated that he had probably forded the creek about one to two hours before and we knew that we had at least an hour more of work to do here. As the sun melts snow and the melted snow makes runoff which ends up in Bear Creek. We knew that crossing Bear Creek would be a problem later on.

Additional talking with the hiker indicated that there would not be too much of a problem with the rest of the trail. He said that there was "some snow and ice ahead" but that it shouldn't cause any real problems for us. HA! Maybe we should have noticed that he had an ice ax on his pack and given the subject some additional thought.

Next time we do this we should stop by at the Vermilion Store and talk with any through hikers about trail conditions that we might encounter.


Eric, Ed, Steve, Dolly, Ron and Ray Full view
Our 210+ year old tree
Eric, Ed, Steve, Dolly, Ron and Ray with our 210+ year old tree after it was off the trail.
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While the others were busy cutting the tree into pieces. I counted the rings to determine how old it was. I got up to at least 210 rings, but some of them were quite close together and I probably under counted.


Eric, Ed, Steve, Ron, Ray and Dolly/Shackelton Full view
Better version of picture 15.
Better version of picture 15.
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Bigger full view Full view
Seven gables.
Seven gables.
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Dolly climbed these once and reports that the climb is "easy". From what I have seen of her hiking, anything that is easy for her is going to be difficult for an average person.


Eventually we finished with the 210+ year old tree and continued on up the trail. We walked through a long distance of wet trail with many small streamlets crossing it. All of these were easily crossed by "boulder hopping" and careful foot placement. We then got to the Hilgard Branch of Bear Creek coming out of Lake Italy which most of us forded. (Ray up the creek and found a downed tree that he used to cross over on.)

I didn't have anything other than my boots to wear in crossing the creek and I had to wear them as the creek bed was filled with rocks. I had been in this area in August 1999 and knew that the creek would be here, but back then it was easy to jump over, so all I did was plan to change my socks into something dry after crossing it. At least Steve and Ron had planned far enough to carry "Teva" sandals with them. They both stopped and put them on and crossed over then put their dry boots/socks back on. (I have since bought Tevas for myself.)

Crossing Bear Creek in Late Summer
"Normal" crossing of Bear Creek on a different trip
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Crossing Bear Creek is normally done at the ford. This is picture that was taken last year, during late Summer, of Scott (who was not with us on this trip) crossing. Note that the water just bearly gets up to his knees. Note the way that crosscut saws are carried. There are two problems with carrying a crosscut saw: the first one is that it tends to "snag" on the bushes that line the trail and the other is that if the saw is bent, in too tight a curve, it will break! (Some saw skills are hard to learn! At least one saw has been broken by trail crew volunteers, but not on this trip nor during this year.) Even with these problems, this is the best/safest way to carry a full size crosscut saw. The teeth are always pointing "backwards", i.e. away from the head or any thing else which might get damaged. It is not very obvious in this small picture, but Scott has undone the waist and sternum belts on his backpack. This is so that if he falls, he can quickly get out of the backpack.

A mile or two later on we got to the ford on Bear Creek and decided that the level was too high and the water was rushing by too quickly for a safe fording. We had lunch and went down creek several hundred yards to find a usable fording place. (Any time that rushing water is knee high, or more, it is unsafe to cross.) Ron finally found a place that looked OK. He took off his pants and put on his Tevas and crossed over. (By taking off his pants, Ron not only kept them dry but reduced the effect of the rapidly moving water on his legs.) When he stepped off the bank at the edge of the creek he got up to about mid-thigh, but as the water wasn't flowing very fast at the edge it was OK. As he got to the middle of the creek, the water was somewhat shallower and faster. Here he used his shovel for support and continued on. When Ron got to what we thought was the other side, he left his pack there and came back to stand in the freezing water and help the rest of us across.

I was next and I walked into the water and tried to use my shovel for support. Using the shovel for support was not too successful. I finally listened to Ron and turned it around so that the wooden part was down and I was holding on to the metal end. Until I did this the metal "shovel" end was constantly being knocked aside and I could not get it all the way down to the creek bed.

After I passed Ron, I went on a bit and found that what we had thought was the other bank, was just an island in the middle of the creek. Fortunately, there was a relatively shallow ford from the island to the real bank. This was the area, where one of us had an accident and fell into the water. Glad it was here as earlier on we would have had to chase down the creek to do a rescue! By this time Ron was complaining about his legs getting cold and numb. When we got across the creek we took a short break in the sun to dry out and warm up.

Ray, Ron, Ed and Steve Full view

On the way from Rosemarie Meadow to Seldon Pass.
Ray, Ron, Ed and Steve on way to Rosemarie meadow.
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The rest of the day consisted of hiking up to Rosemarie Meadow. On the way Ray, Ed and Steve cleaned out several water bars. I got to the top of the hill and Dolly had Shackelton tried to find me. (Shackelton is in the process of being trained to be a search dog and practice is always helpful. It was easy on me as I just sat by the side of the trail and waited to be found! Shackelton did find me.) On the entire hike, I never heard Shackelton bark once. A very nice and well behaved dog!

Dolly had camped in Rosemarie Meadow the preceding year with a group from the Sierra Club and had lost Shackelton's leash here. She went back to the same place that she had camped in last year and was able to retrieve the leash in good condition. Dolly never camped "near" the rest of the team, she was probably always one to two hundred yards away from us.

At Rosemarie Meadow, Steve went up to Rose Lake. He reported on the way back that there was "a lot of snow up there". As we had snow in several large patches around where we were, I didn't think too much about it. After Steve got back we all took a short walk to see the old Forest Snow Survey cabin. It was locked and we couldn't get in. Dolly had been in it once before and reported that all it had inside was many rat droppings.

That night it got kinda cold and when I got up in the morning my boots were frozen. They were not totally hard, but they were sure uncomfortable! After walking around in them for an hour or so, I could at least do up the laces.


End of the second day