Third Day, June 8, 2002, Volunteer Trail Crew


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Third and fourth day's hiking
Map of the third and fourth day's hiking. From Rosemarie Meadow to the San Joaquin River and then to Florence Lake.
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Ron and Ed Full view
On way to Seldon Pass.
Third day, Ron and Ed on way to Seldon Pass.
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After breakfast at Rosemarie Meadow, we went back to the PCT and crossed over Marie Creek on a log. Shortly after crossing we started running into snow. Actually it wasn't snow, it was ice. Hard and slippery ice. The only way that I made it up the hill was by using my wonderful shovel. (When I got back from the trip, I went out and bought my own good quality shovel!) We started out in the shade, so the sun hadn't had a chance to melt the surface of the ice/snow yet.

We gave up on trying to follow the PCT as it was under snow and ice and in general could not be found. So we went up the hill by any convenient method we could. When we got to the top we could at last see Marie Lake and Seldon Pass.

On the way up the hill there were several places where we could hear water under foot, even though we were on snow/ice. It didn't take too much thinking to know that none of us wanted to break through the crust and go "post holing" into these icy creeks. (When water runs under snow it forms a little cavern, the top of which may be several feet above the water and quite thin. Getting someone out a mess like this wouldn't be fun. Fortunately, no one post holed through and into an icy creek.)

All the way up to Seldon Pass, we alternated between post holing in snow that was in the sun, slipping on ice when the snow was in the shade, and just difficult going on the sloping side of the hill.


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General view north on the way to Seldon Pass.
General view north on the way to Seldon Pass.
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General view south on the way to Seldon Pass.
General view south on the way to Seldon Pass.
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That little dip on the right of Mt. Seneger is Seldon Pass. And look at all those nice boulders to walk on! Nice hiking for a few hundred yards.


Seldon Pass Full view
General view on way to Seldon Pass.
View of Mt Seneger on the way to Seldon Pass.
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Seldon Pass Ed Full view
Ed on way to Seldon Pass.
Ed on way to Seldon Pass with Marie Lake (frozen) in background.
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If you look carefully one of those spots on the picture is one of us! (I have forgotten who. Sorry but I only had a wide angle lens with me.)


Marie Lake Full view
Marie Lake
North view toward Marie Lake from the way up to Seldon Pass.
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Steve, Ray, Ed, Dolly/Shackelton and Ron Full view
At the top of Seldon Pass.
At the top of Seldon Pass, Eric (off the picture to the left), Steve, Ed, Dolly/Shackelton and Ron.
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Well, we finally got there! We turned the Seldon Pass sign around so that it would appear well in this picture. This is the other place where we had a disagreement and that was when almost every one else said that I would be out of the picture and I didn't believe them. Well, it looks like I really showed them! (That's me about 1/2 inch off to the left of the picture!)


Ron and Ed Ron, Ed, Ray and Dolly Full view
At Seldon Pass
Ron, Ed, Ray, Dolly at Seldon Pass.
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Notice that most of us are warmly dressed. Even though it is June, it is also cold and windy up there. We all had and wore dark glasses to help with the snow glare. If you notice Steve he is always fully covered to protect from the sun. (I used a sun blocking spray.)


Steve Full view
Seldon Pass.
Steve at Seldon Pass.
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Yes it was cold and windy up there!


South from Seldon Pass Full view
Heading south
Heading south after crossing Seldon Pass.
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Looking towards the San Joaquin river (which is out of sight at the bottom of a canyon that we will be going down later on today.) Heart Lake is in the distance.

Heart Lake in Summer
Heart Lake in Late Summer, from a different trip
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This is a nice little lake when there is no snow anywhere near.


Ron Full view
Pumping water
Ron pumping water about half way between Seldon Pass and Heart Lake.
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One of our party started having signs of altitude sickness and we had to stop here for awhile. There are only two "cures" for altitude sickness: one is to acclimate for several days before attempting hard work at altitude, and the other is to get back to a lower altitude! Fortunately we had already planned to drop down to around 7,000 feet from the current 10,000 foot altitude, for the night, so we were "covered", or soon would be, for this medical problem.

Later on we got to Sallie Keyes Lakes where we had lunch. Our altitude sick companion couldn't keep any solid food down so we tried to make some hot soup for him out of the flavor packets that came with our Top Ramin noodles. It seemed to work, but we all knew the only thing that would really help was getting him back down to a lower elevation.

We left Sallie Keyes Lakes by crossing over Sallie Keyes Creek. Conveniently enough there was a nice large log here to use. I do not have a good "sense of balance" and it took me awhile to get across. The log didn't even slow the others down.


Ray and Ron
Down to the San Joaquin River
Heading down to the San Joaquin River (Ray and Ron).
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One of our problems on this hike is that it was the first trip through the hills after winter. And so we had no idea of how much work was ahead of us. Sallie Keyes Lakes have several nice campsites, but we continued on. Most of this was to get to a lower altitude and part of it was so that we would have enough time to remove any dead fall from the trail.

This is at the start of a hill side that was to take us down to the bottom of the San Joaquin Valley. The loss in altitude was about 2,000 feet and made breathing easier.

At the bottom of the hill, we left the PCT and turned right down Forest Service trail 30E01 which we followed down to our campsite for the night.

That night we camped on the banks of the San Joaquin River. When we got into camp, all but our "altitude guy" had dinner and went to sleep early. It had been a long day. Our "altitude guy" went to sleep immediately.

Getting up the next day we were all well and everyone helped to eat all of our remaining food. We knew that we would be back at Edison Lake for some "real food" and couldn't see carrying any "extra" food.

The next morning we continued on down the trail to Florence Lake.


End of the third day